tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post4809137733890765962..comments2024-03-23T09:27:34.737+02:00Comments on Traditionalists: Limited Guénonian influence in incoming Brazilian governmentMark Sedgwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09998818251387897344noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-26112890605286050612019-02-06T23:14:46.519+02:002019-02-06T23:14:46.519+02:00Professor Sedgwick,
Thank you for your book "...Professor Sedgwick,<br /><br />Thank you for your book "Against the Modern World". I'd like to mention it was due to Olavo's citation of Guénon and his association with Schuon that I came to know your work --- which is a very important historical document on the Traditionalist movement. <br /><br />Olavo also came to know Rama Coomaraswamy personally for a brief period (he spent some days in his house) and I find it puzzling the way he puts Rama as an islamic agent under disguise whose objective was to infiltrate the traditionalist catholic movement --- something that deservers elucidation. That can be seen here: https://permanencia.org.br/drupal/node/1912 (Unfortunately it's in portuguese, but Google Translator translates it very well as I've tested.)<br /><br />Nowadays Olavo denounces Guénon as someone who sought to turn the west under islamic power. If his quotation of Rama is indeed true (i.e. Rama tried to use msgr. Lefebvre to accomplish the islamization program inside the traditionalist catholic circle) then there's a whole new level of traditionalist agenda worth of being uncovered.<br /><br />On a side note: I profoundly disagree with my fellow countryman's statement that he doesn't have the caliber of the philosopher title. A reading of his book "O Jardim das Aflições" would suffice against that claim. That said, I also agree that Olavo would be open for an interview --- and that would benefit us all. <br /><br />It's also worth mentioning Olavo recommends and praises other men who came into contact with Traditionalism, such as Borella, Jean Hani and Wolfgang Smith.<br />J.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-19329774153847647332019-01-09T22:52:57.110+02:002019-01-09T22:52:57.110+02:00It is rather important to state that senhor Carval...It is rather important to state that senhor Carvalho is not anymore a follower neither of Guénon, nor of Schuon, nor of the Perennial Philosophy school. Of course the most interesting ideas that he still convey despite his (Carvalho's) opposition to the Sophia Perennis still come from the Guénon-Schuon school. The rest, what comes from himself, has no interest at all. Carvalho wants to be known as a "philosopher", but he does not have the caliber to claim this. He is much more a journalist and a polemicist; he is interested only in the immediate, not in the perennial. Besides, it is totally false that Guénon and Schuon wanted to "islamicize" the Western world. They were universalists, they believed in, and expounded the ''transcendent unity of religion''. Schuon in particular has inspiring and illuminating views on Christianity and its saints an sages. For him, St Francis of Assisi and St Therese of Lisieux were Christian Bodhisattvas! It is enough to read Schuon's book "Forme and substance in the Religions", or "Christianity/Islam", to know this for sure.Francisconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-52242010166176156862018-12-29T17:47:20.815+02:002018-12-29T17:47:20.815+02:00This work is very important. Many people adopt a p...This work is very important. Many people adopt a paternalist tone with those who read and admire some aspects of Guénon's work, as myself. It takes but one citation to be associated with secret organizations, etc. There is a Wall of China of prejudices to cross to achieve a sober discussion of these ideas.Caiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15377991366381043853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-11738508220950608852018-12-29T15:21:03.294+02:002018-12-29T15:21:03.294+02:00Thanks to Victor Bruno and to Caio for their comme...Thanks to Victor Bruno and to Caio for their comments and references. The piece by Olavo de Carvalho (“As garras da Esfinge – René Guénon e a islamização do Ocidente”) is one I had not read, and is an important one.<br /><br />In response to Victor Bruno, Carvalho may deny being Bolsonaro’s guru, but Bolsonaro evidently respects him and his work, as does Ernesto Araújo, as is clear in the article in <i>The New Criterion</i> to which Victor Bruno draws attention. And as to the significance of “metapolitics,” I am not suggesting that Araújo is a devoted disciple of all aspects of Alain de Benoist’s teachings. He is not. As Carvalho points out, Araújo is a Catholic while Benoist is anti-Catholic. My suggestion is rather that Araújo is probably familiar with the thought of the French New Right.Mark Sedgwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09998818251387897344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-20502545869322136322018-12-28T22:35:12.860+02:002018-12-28T22:35:12.860+02:00In addition to my last comment, I point this artic...In addition to my last comment, I point this article that Ernesto Araújo recently published in THE NEW CRITERION (Jan., 2019). Its title is "Now We Do." See https://cdn.oantagonista.net/uploads/2018/12/Now-we-do.pdfAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270254481887298491noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-44885118579203891712018-12-28T22:11:34.050+02:002018-12-28T22:11:34.050+02:00Hello. Olavo broke relations with Schuon many year...Hello. Olavo broke relations with Schuon many years ago. He seems to subscribe to the general opinion nowadays that Schuon was an inspiring genius that went crazy. He talks openly about his days at the Tariqa, I bet he would gladly accept an interview with you. This article shows that he doesn't believe in Guénon's doctrine despite admiting that his work is valuable in other areas:<br /><br />http://www.olavodecarvalho.org/as-garras-da-esfinge-rene-guenon-e-a-islamizacao-do-ocidente/<br /><br />I enjoyed your book very much. Goog work.Caiohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15377991366381043853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-48388009099340859422018-12-28T20:23:34.250+02:002018-12-28T20:23:34.250+02:00Dear Professor Sedgwick,—
Yours is the first—if b...Dear Professor Sedgwick,—<br /><br />Yours is the first—if brief—analysis of Carvalho’s influence in the future Brazilian federal government. However, I should point out two things,<br /><br />(1) Professor Carvalho denies being a “guru” of Bolsonaro, repeatedly stating that he talked only in three opportunities with the future president. His power to influence the picking of the ministries has more to deal with the general respect he inspires in the now-emergent Brazilian Right-wing than with a direct access to the new president.<br /><br />(2) But on your second paragraph, I wish to point out that Carvalho has clarified that Araújo’s use of the term “metapolitics” isn’t borrowed from the Nouvelle Droit; Carvalho, especially, states that he considers metapolitics as a discipline of study in political philosophy, and not—and thus departing from the Nouvelle Droit—as a means of action. Some Brazilian commentators have insinuated that Araújo has links with Alain de Benoist because of his use of the term, but as Carvalho said in a Facebook post:<br /><br />“[Some people are] promoting the posts of some Russian guy [Evgeny Morozov] who accuses Ernesto Araújo of having links with the Alan de Benoist’s French ‘Nouvelle Droit.’ Evidences? Both men use the word ‘metapolitics.’<br /><br />“This is sheer stupidity, and the only answer it deserves is the classic Go F*** Yourself, but to the innocent audience I clarify that:<br />“1) Metapolitics is the name of a subject, and not of the password of an initiatic group: to use this word is not to profess a faith.<br />2) Ernesto Araújo is Catholic and would never follow the teachings of an atheist evolutionist like Benoist.”<br />(http://facebook.com/carvalho.olavo/posts/o-martim-vaca-está-divulgando-os-posts-de-um-russo-que-acusa-o-ernesto-araújo-de/1166108750207864/) <br /><br />And, four years ago, in a text obviously unrelated to the present issue, he used the word in the following context:<br /><br />“The Eurasian Empire as Alexander Dugin and his most important pupil, President Vladimir Putin, is a synthesis of the late URSS and the Tsarist Empire. As the theoretical backbone of the project is, in its turn, a mix between Marxism-Leninism, Russian messianism, Nazism, and Esoterism, and since there is hardly a Western reader who has sufficient knowledge of all theses schools of thought, each one only see in it the part that to which he is more sympathetic, inadvertently buying the rest of the package. . . . [Thus] esoterists, followers of René Guénon and Julius Evola, judge that [the Eurasian Empire] is the incarnation of a superior “metapolitics” that is incomprehensible to the vulgar man, more or less similar to the one that Raymond Abellio (an esoterist himself) describes in LA FOSSE DE BABEL.” ("Eurasianismo e genocídio" [Eurasianism and Genocide], http://olavodecarvalho.org/eurasianismo-e-genocidio/)<br /><br />On the other hand, Araújo has not defended himself from these charges. However, it is clear, at least for me, that of the term “metapolitics” falls on the lines described in the earlier quote from Professor Carvalho—that is, metapolitics as an academic subject.<br /><br />At any rate, Professor Carvalho was the first to bring René Guénon to the spotlight in Brazil. On that I should recommend the reading of a previous book of his, O JARDIM DAS AFLIÇÕES [The Garden of Afflictions], a general panorama of Western spiritual and philosophic degradation. It is one of his (two) “books of transition,” written a few years after he left Sufism and went back into Catholicism. Guénon (and Schuon, someone who he knew personally) is referenced a few times, but not from a philosophic—and not from a spiritual, as a follower of his would certainly do—standpoint.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02270254481887298491noreply@blogger.com