tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post4962278436485823685..comments2024-02-18T19:17:58.021+02:00Comments on Traditionalists: Political HesychasmMark Sedgwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09998818251387897344noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-45633849916332480792017-06-20T13:36:01.591+02:002017-06-20T13:36:01.591+02:00"A couple of corrections -Hesychasm - is a th..."A couple of corrections -Hesychasm - is a theological tradition, codified by St Gregory Palamas, that articulates the importance of 'theosis' (deification) as the ultimate destination for any person involved in the Christian life and involves the practice of silent prayer, rooted, for the Orthodox, in the Jesus Prayer. It has never been condemned by the Roman Catholic Church."<br /><br />Yeah, never condemned but Theosis didnt 'work' in a thomistic theology. St Palamas great defense of Orthodoxy against Roman Catholicism was his distinction of Essence-Energies in God. Roman Catholicism never accepted such distinction mainly due to the catholic preference of Thomistic perspective (God as Pure-Act/Absolute Divine Simplicity). <br /><br />For those who want to know more about this (the main difference of Orthodoxy and Roman Catholicism, in my opinion, since without this there is no union with God) I recommend the reading:<br /><br />The Distinction Between Essence and Energies and its Importance for Theology (C. Yannaras)<br />http://echipamortii.blogspot.com.br/2017/04/the-distinction-between-essence-and.html<br /><br />From Theology To Philosophy In The Latin West - Philip Sherrard<br />http://echipamortii.blogspot.com.br/2017/04/from-theology-to-philosophy-in-latin.html<br /><br />Here also are some A.F. Losev (quoted in the main post) in english:<br /><br />Roman Catholic Prayer Practices and Erotomania - AF Losev<br />http://echipamortii.blogspot.com.br/2017/05/roman-catholic-prayer-practices-and.html<br /><br />Orthodoxy against Platonism - A. F. Losev<br />http://echipamortii.blogspot.com.br/2017/06/orthodoxy-against-platonism-f-losev.html<br /><br />Aleksey F. Losev on Palamite disputes<br />http://echipamortii.blogspot.com.br/2017/03/aleksey-f-losev-on-palamite-disputes.html<br /><br />When Dugin writes that Orthodoxy is 'initiatic' comparated with Roman Catholicism he have in mind the Hesychast Tradition mainly of Mount Athos monks. Many perenialists were aware of this also and they prefered Orthodoxy when they needed to recommend some inquirer. Eastern Christianity and Perenialism: http://echipamortii.blogspot.com.br/2016/10/eastern-christianity-and-perenialism.html<br /><br /><br />This series of posts written by a Orthodox monk shows the incompatibility of Jesus Prayer/Hesychasm and Roman Catholicism: https://orthodoxmonk.blogspot.com.br/2010/08/byzantine-catholic-forum-takes-on-our.htmlTony Pedrozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240850720546221862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-7106221000876573242017-06-20T09:51:14.342+02:002017-06-20T09:51:14.342+02:00"Hesychasm" is something that has never ... "Hesychasm" is something that has never existed, however. Marconoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-23143753695376179282017-06-20T04:28:32.038+02:002017-06-20T04:28:32.038+02:00Thank you -- I appreciate the follow-up; though I ...Thank you -- I appreciate the follow-up; though I couldn't say I yet grasp the idea, insofar as it can be expressed concisely in a sentence or a few sentences. Probably more on the concept will come to light in the future. I recognize P. Florensky's name from a book issued by the St. Herman of Alaska Press, Salt of the Earth, concerning the Elder Isidore.Wurmbrandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17345523517796356674noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-70402193724738994162017-06-15T19:27:10.240+02:002017-06-15T19:27:10.240+02:00Thank you. My source for the condemnation was Mich...Thank you. My source for the condemnation was Michael Hagemeister’s article. He cites two sources that I cannot easily check, one Russian and one German. Nicholas Colloff may well be right, but the main point is perhaps not whether there was an actual condemnation but whether modern Russian “Political Hesychasts” believe there was a condemnation.<br /><br />Nicholas Colloff is right that I should not describe Pavel Florensky as a Bolshevik simply because he worked with the Bolshevik government. That was wrong and I have amended the original post.Mark Sedgwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09998818251387897344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-87505742066602015252017-06-15T19:13:33.921+02:002017-06-15T19:13:33.921+02:00A couple of corrections -Hesychasm - is a theologi...A couple of corrections -Hesychasm - is a theological tradition, codified by St Gregory Palamas, that articulates the importance of 'theosis' (deification) as the ultimate destination for any person involved in the Christian life and involves the practice of silent prayer, rooted, for the Orthodox, in the Jesus Prayer. It has never been condemned by the Roman Catholic Church. <br /><br />St Pavel Florensky cannot be described as a 'Bolshevik' priest. He did decide to put his considerable scientific gifts at the service of Russia after the revolution but never identified with the revolution or its organs and perished as a result of one of Stalin's purges. Nicholas Colloffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09677907138534928912noreply@blogger.com