tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post8337327531322581308..comments2024-03-23T09:27:34.737+02:00Comments on Traditionalists: Tavener on the eternal feminineMark Sedgwickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09998818251387897344noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-6000763468644634042008-07-06T13:42:00.000+02:002008-07-06T13:42:00.000+02:00I agree, Anonymous, that someone is only a Maryami...I agree, Anonymous, that someone is only a Maryami if they belong to the Maryamiyya--or perhaps if they were a non-Muslim disciple of Frithjof Schuon. <BR/><BR/>Sir John Taverner's comments on Schuon (see http://traditionalistblog.blogspot.com/2007/01/traditionalism-in-arts.html) certainly suggest that he is a disciple of Schuon, however. And even if he is just a "follower" in some other sense, I think it is still proper to see his music as Traditionalist--among other things, of course!Mark Sedgwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11697551716540483823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-26888201779351346682008-07-03T11:48:00.000+02:002008-07-03T11:48:00.000+02:00Ummm...Sir John isn't actually a Maryami...he's Gr...Ummm...Sir John isn't actually a Maryami...he's Greek Orthodox. Perhaps you have a new definition for the term 'Maryami', but strictly speaking it should only be applied to someone initiated into the Sufi order of Frithjof Schuon, or perhaps, more generally, to include his Christian and other disciples. However, Sir John fits neither definition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-53108112658668694632007-08-09T19:19:00.000+02:002007-08-09T19:19:00.000+02:00Thank you, Mr Macnamara. I should have noticed the...Thank you, Mr Macnamara. I should have noticed the absence of prayer myself... It makes quite a difference!Mark Sedgwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11697551716540483823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-64291632065858291442007-08-09T11:09:00.000+02:002007-08-09T11:09:00.000+02:00I was surprised at the modification of the hadith ...I was surprised at the modification of the hadith Sir John used to give a "traditional" source to his "Aristasianism" : isn't the hadith : Woman, perfumes, and prayer ?" .<BR/>Obviously, and you point this out in "Against the Modern World", Maryamis seem to use a certain amount of Islam to justify their "traditionalist" approach, and to honor the Maryami sufi origins, but not so far as to consider themselves as "Muslim Muslims". Maybe this last remark is a generalization.<BR/><BR/>Best regards,<BR/><BR/>R. Macnamara (France)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-75362612928541344382007-07-23T10:00:00.000+02:002007-07-23T10:00:00.000+02:00Thanks, Curious!After a quick look, I'd say this c...Thanks, Curious!<BR/><BR/>After a quick look, I'd say this comes out of Aristasia--even the graphics look familiar. But there are no obvious links from here <I>to</I> Aristasia. A split, then?Mark Sedgwickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11697551716540483823noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29711878.post-47097883309320773182007-07-23T08:53:00.000+02:002007-07-23T08:53:00.000+02:00There is a new and rather extensive website at:htt...There is a new and rather extensive website at:<BR/><BR/>http://www.mother-god.com/<BR/><BR/>It seems to be decidedly Traditionalist-influenced and makes some reference to Aristasian spiritual writings. It also makes some points similar to Sir John's. It is written in British English.<BR/><BR/>Is a pattern emerging?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com