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Friday, April 27, 2018
Maude Murray on Frithjof Schuon
A number of comments on this blog’s main posting on Frithjof Schuon and Islam have just been made by (a person self-identifying as) Maud Murray, Schuon’s third wife. They do not fundamentally change the picture we have, but add some detail. They also announce a forthcoming blog.
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My blog, now open, is called:. Frithjof Schuon: A mystery in spiritual genius and character. It is unlike anything posted before, for several reasons; but first I must correct an extremely important mistake I've been making: one of you you has definitively corrected me for praising Seyyed Hossein Nasr. I have heard a great many fuqara's complaints about his doctrine and character; however, I'd not realized that he too is guilty of improper treatment of women, and thus of course of abuse of spiritual authority. I'm extremely unhappy, because, once again, great intelligence, erudition and wisdom in many respects - risks being called into question, due to a "side" impossible to deny, in a person who has exhibited so many qualities. I wish someone other than myself, would help save the tremendous accomplishments of flawed human beings.
Now I have several technical problems: my long comment keeps erasing itself, so excuse me: I'll write in several parts.
People need to hear frankly about Seyyed Hossein Nasr, because they're going from Schuon to Nasr. That's not funny: we all have to help people for the sake of God, as truth, goodness and beauty - especially beauty of character at the moment.
The truth about Dr. Nasr is also a most unfortunate proof of something new (to you; not to the Sunnah? that I'm trying to bring to your attention: spiritual intelligence, no matter how sublime-seeming, is not a sign of sanctity. It SEEEMS to me to be (sometimes anyway) a gift to the spirit. But people are not reading the main document on my blog, with enough attentivenes. We shouldn't all be running around shouting: "Scandal, heresy, narcissism, power..." We should be trying to situate the reasons for the errors of our leaders, the reasons for our mistakes and WHAT TO KEEP of the accomplishments we've seen. The devil has every interest to destroy all the works of the men we are blaming - men who had great virtues too.
I, Aminah, am not saying essentially what has been said before. I am saying that much that's been said was grotesquely exavgerated, crude and ugly. AND I am trying to get YOU to Sol e a mystery: what is the nature of (at least some people's) spiritual genius is? It seems to be a gift to the spirit; but you need to read what I wrote with concentration, and come up with another answer or agree with what the e samples and ahadith sure seem to prove. Most importantly: strive, perform jihad, to keep the devil from whisking away lifetimes of work on God's behalf.
Now I'm not certain of anything but the Shahadah (and it's consequences) and I'm not competent to accomplish a whole work of spiritual reform by myself. All I can do is tell a true human story, with plenty of absolutely honest and frank reporting. Be patient with me, and volunteer, for the sake of OUR mutual Lord, to help solve a mystery in these End Times, when there's hardly anything true to be found. Let's not let the devil get away with slaying what truth is left.
I cannot find the blog that Maude Murray is referring to.
Maude's blog is at https://frithjofschuon.wordpress.com
Frithjof Schuon: A mystery in spiritual genius and character. That works when I type it on google; but Im impossible for tecnology, try this too: frithjofschuon.wordpress.com
Everyone: Im here, alive and well, ready to answer (almost a ny) questions; but Im 80, and never heard of technology till "yesterday," so be patient...And heres my email: murraymaude57@gmail.com.
Ive had emails from about everywhere except Japan and China, so one sees that many want to know; but Im not up to the job: somebodys help is needed for metaphysics, and erudition!
Actually: I might need some legal advice. Im thinking Ill die soon anyway, but Id rather not die in jail. As for money, Ive usually a dollar left each month. Have I any problems? Does anyone know?
Another subject: it sure would be wonderful to find some more intelligent comments on my site. I dont want to compete: my site is only on one subject
God forgive me if i'm wrong, but this whole thing does not smell kosher. The comments here, and the blog itself have all the hallmarks of a certain troll making the rounds again. Could be wrong, but i'm not so sure. Le temps nous le dira...
No, she is the real deal, sincere in what she wishes to communicate regarding her experience, and not working with any trolls.
This has been confirmed from another reliable source--it really is Maude Murray.
Well, there you have it, I stand corrected.
A gifted metaphysician, who does not submit to revelation, reminds me of a Greek myth. Diogenes flew off of a tower, to freedom, with wings made of birds feathers, glued to his body with candle wax. His father had much warned him not to fly too high, but he became exhilerated with flight and went near the sun (God). Its heat melted the wax; his wings fell off, and he plunged to his death. His father's voice was like the words of revelation. A myth is an eternal lesson, and here we are learning from a myth again!
Allah, His Prophet, the companions and all the great masters, said the same things. However, one is considered an enemy of the Lord if one criticises Frithjof Schuon for not doing what God says!
Address of my site:
frithjofschuon.wordpress.com
My site has changed so much since it opened in May, that it's unrecognizable, due to an Inclusive Summary, posted above all else - and including all the essentials without one's having to read the story of my life, how I met Frithjof Schuon, loved and admired him, and slowly realized something was wrong. I do not agree at all with Mark Sedgwick; however, he did say something I find extremely perspicacious, which hasn't been so clearly seen by anyone else (as far as I know). That was his pointing out that Frithjof Schuon saw HIS Perennialism as being the best, one and only real and true Perennialism. That was due to "a little character trait" - alas, pride. That ruined everything in my view, and he used his genius to re-weave the cosmos around his ego, to re-define truth, make himself the criterion of truth, and esoterize sin. I'm really hard on him, after much thought, prayer and reading of the Quran and ahadith. Believe it or not, he still had marvelous, unforgettable qualities, and a great many people believed, prayed and had profound understanding due to him. In my view, one learns even more by seeing how he went astray, and by comparing him to all the true shuyukh and "traditionalists" like Guénon, whose letters criticizing Frithjof Schuon are in an Appendix. Also in an Appendix (following "Very dear Theophilus,") are quotes from all the great, traditional masters of Sufism, showing how wrong were the ideas of Frithjof Schuon). Neither Guenon nor Valsan changed his ideas as has been claimed. Christianity - the essence of its way - is included now too. If you are really interested in traditionalism and/or the Religio perennis, you should re-read the Summary on this site:
frithjofschuon.wordpress.com
The new book, Re-thinking Ibn Arabi, by Gregory A. Lipton, says in a few paragraphs, most of what I've written in 100 pages on my site. That, in intellectual terms, concludes that the Perennialists and Traditionalists (as usually described) are modernists in sheep's clothing. What I write at length, proves what he wrote, from my lifetime of experience. Now he could be wrong (several have objected) when he implies that Frithjof Schuon was prejudiced towards Aryans in Casts and races. All I know is that he did tell me and another wife that the Mahdi would have to be a German. That sounds odd today, but he did tend to think that whatever he was, was the best!
I'll post a link to an introduction to his ($80) book later.
https://www.macalester.edu/religiousstudies/facultystaff/gregorylipton/
Thats the link to the new book I find so marvelous!
This year, 2019, God willing, there will be a book published by Beacon Books in the UK, called:
Third Wife
of a
Muslim Sheikh
That will be addressed to believers in all traditions, and it will be personal stories, intended to warn about the dangers of not following what God has revealed. Like my site, which has changed tremendously, it will show what true Islam and true Sufism are, in an attempt to counteract books against Islam by people, especially women, who had a bad experience and lost their faith. That's confusing the accident with the essence, and trust in God, and knowledge of true Islam help one through anything !
My site (I was the concubine, or third "wife" of Frithjof Schuon) is exceedingly different now, than it was when I talked about it here. I have learned a little bit from you all, but the main change comes from the help of Gnostics, whose words show not only the UN-STRAIGHT PATH, but also the STRAIGHT PATH - the way out of ALL heresies and confusions, traps specially laid for us seekers of Truth, in the End Time. Even the title of that site has changed, and I stopped teaching you all a lesson. Ive just been learning, and Im a sieve: Whatever I learn, I share with you all. Thats because I feel like everyone's mother, loving those who seek Truth.
I started commenting here, because I saw a post about a brilliant article, called "The milk of the Virgin." It was by Renaud Fabbri, who was a dyed-in-the-wool Schuonian, non plus ultra! He was not alone! Another brilliant man, a Christian, named James Cutzinger, was also defending Frithjof Schuon. I heard about the lovely character of Cutzinger: Everyone who knew him loved him, so I came to think the world of him too - albeit, I saw that he was mis-guided, so I prayed for him. I was fond of Renaud Fabbri, for his qualities too, and used to try to be friends...and I assumed both good men thought I was just another vengeful woman.Well, that dear Professor Cutzinger finally understood! He left in 2017, and after years of battling cancer, died in January of this year, 2020: May God forgive him and welcome him in Heaven. As for dear Renaud Fabbri: He just came and commented on my site! He left several years ago, and understands the doctrinal errors better than I do!
There is still a big confusion about what Rene Guénon thought. Some people (always brilliant) quote a letter Guénon wrote to Schuon in 1946, praising him. Well, what happened was that Guénon himself, a sword of Gnosis, made a mistake! Precisely between 1946 and 1950, he realized that he had been too tolerant of things he had noticed. SO: He wrote a series of letters in 1950, to firmly situate Frithjof Schuon forever after. All Guénon's letters are on my site, under the heading, "The essential."
Now I find it interesting that Rene Guénon, a bastion of orthodoxy, who destroyed about all the idols there COULD be up till the end of time..could make a mistake like that. That is not actually a hard problem. It is metaphysically impossible, that anyone can be perfect like God.Sooner or later we all make mistakes; and I made a tremendous "mistake" (worse) for 30 years. That's why I want to help those who search for Truth in these very difficult times!
Here's my site, quite changed as others have helped in doctrinal discernment. In the beginning, I only understood chracter::
frithofschuon.wordpress.com
The summit of Matterhorn cannot be reached by train, sorry. László Nagy is not a Russian name at all but a Hungarian.Sorry.
All the time I was in Switzerland, with Nagi as Secretary-General, Hungary was under the control of Russia; and anyway millions of people are citizens of countries not matching their names. Also
, after 50 + years, I don't remember whether I was on top, or part way up the Matterhorn when my husband asked me to marry him, so what? So, I haven't time to object to people who strain at gnats but swallow camels; and I don't want to use this good blog as a place to argue with objections to my book, which will have a new edition March 1st, God willing. Anyone is welcome to send me an email: if corrections are significant, I'd be delighted to change for future editions.
Anyone may have a pdf of my now out-of-print book, Third Wife of the Muslim Shaykh, Frithjof Schuon. Send email to: murraymaude57@gmail.com
My book, Third Wife of the the Muslim Shaykh, Frithjof Schuon, was brought down by a lawsuit after 17 days! In a few months, there will be a second edition, I pray "glued down;" but if you want it, you'd better order it before the same lawyer gets it down, God forbid. It will be announced on my site https://frithjofschuon.wordpress.com
I've also got an interesting new page now against the lawyer who got my book down AND who led Frithjof Schuon and all us disciples through the Grand Jury Hearing of 1991 for child molestation. He copyrights and adjudicates anything negative about his "Messenger of the Perennial philosophy." That's in the title of a book written by the lawyer! Albeit declared innocent, Schuon was much more than guilty; but not with the perversity added by nearly all "scandal-mongers." See my site's page "NEWS ACCOUNTS..." My publisher and I are still in a lawsuit, which is complicated and could go either way; but no matter what, "this" tells the truth and will ever be accessible
murraymaude57@gmail.com ..well, as long as life lasts and God wills.
Are traditionalists in Islam thinking about Muhammad's predictions of the end time? ALL the minor predictions were fulfilled decades ago; and only recently some recognize the Dajjal, the sun's rising in the West and the Beast of the Earth. I tell my ideas - One being that the Dajjal IS disbelief (kufr) itself; and "he" has been around for a very long time - with aspects galore all around us! One-eyed? What is more one-eyed than materialism which only sees physical things - being blind to the unseen, whole world of spiritual reality?
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